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Beitrag 16.12.2008 - 17:46
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Is it possible to have a League Cup where only the 2nd and 3rd division teams are entered? I went through the options for both League Cup and League Cup (lower leagues) but I got either a tourney with just reserve league teams or a tourney with teams from all 6 divisions.

I have 6 levels in my current setup. Level 1 (16 teams, no relegated teams), Level 2 (16 teams, 2 relegated), Level 3 (16 teams, 2 promoted), Level 4 (16 reserve teams, no relegated), Level 5 (16 reserve teams, 2 relegated), Level 6 (16 reserve teams, 2 promoted).

Do I need to delete my reserve levels to get a league cup with the teams from Levels 2 and 3?

Thanks.
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Beitrag 17.12.2008 - 1:33
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QUOTE (Arsene @ 17.12.2008 - 1:46) *
Is it possible to have a League Cup where only the 2nd and 3rd division teams are entered? I went through the options for both League Cup and League Cup (lower leagues) but I got either a tourney with just reserve league teams or a tourney with teams from all 6 divisions.

I have 6 levels in my current setup. Level 1 (16 teams, no relegated teams), Level 2 (16 teams, 2 relegated), Level 3 (16 teams, 2 promoted), Level 4 (16 reserve teams, no relegated), Level 5 (16 reserve teams, 2 relegated), Level 6 (16 reserve teams, 2 promoted).

Do I need to delete my reserve levels to get a league cup with the teams from Levels 2 and 3?

Thanks.


Here try this, put it at the bottom of your cupAlloc.txt file:

%INDEX%CUPXX <-- change this to to to a number greater than whatever Cup comes before it
LEAGUE
Custom Cup
0
5
; always play one match, with extra time and penalties
{ 0, 5, 32, 32, 0, 16, ROUND_1, BEG_1ST_LEG, BEG_WITH_EXTRA_TIME, BEG_WITH_PENALTY }
{ 1, 5, 16, 0, 16, 24, ROUND_2, BEG_1ST_LEG, BEG_WITH_EXTRA_TIME, BEG_WITH_PENALTY }
{ 2, 5, 8, 0, 24, 28, ROUND_QUARTERFINAL, BEG_1ST_LEG, BEG_WITH_EXTRA_TIME, BEG_WITH_PENALTY }
{ 3, 5, 4, 0, 28, 30, ROUND_SEMIFINAL, BEG_1ST_LEG, BEG_WITH_EXTRA_TIME, BEG_WITH_PENALTY }
{ 4, 5, 2, 0, 30, 31, ROUND_FINAL, BEG_1ST_LEG, BEG_WITH_EXTRA_TIME, BEG_WITH_PENALTY }
2
GET_TAB_X_TO_Y, { 0, LEAGUE, 1 }
1
16
GET_TAB_X_TO_Y, { 0, LEAGUE, 2 }
1
16
%INDEXEND%CUPXX <-- same as above

now change the number at the top of the file to something greater than XX

It should now be availible for selection in the editor under the name Custom Cup in the league and lower league cup menus.



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Beitrag 17.12.2008 - 2:57
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That worked perfectly! Thanks!

Is it possible to create a "playoffs" cup for the top division that pulls the top 8 teams and matches them in a 1v8, 2v7 etc two-leg quarterfinal and a one off semifinal?

If it isn't possible to script the format exactly, top 8 teams drawn for knockout would be fine.

Thanks again.
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Beitrag 17.12.2008 - 3:29
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QUOTE (Arsene @ 17.12.2008 - 10:57) *
That worked perfectly! Thanks!

Is it possible to create a "playoffs" cup for the top division that pulls the top 8 teams and matches them in a 1v8, 2v7 etc two-leg quarterfinal and a one off semifinal?

If it isn't possible to script the format exactly, top 8 teams drawn for knockout would be fine.

Thanks again.


You could do this 1 of 2 ways:

1. Relegation Rounds, similar to the ones in England except you would need 3 (I assume, though you didn't mention a final) rounds instead of 2.

2. A Relegation Cup, I don't believe there aren't any pre-existing examples that come with the game, but I've had some success with them in the past.

you can find 2 examples in here the relegations are specified as COMP6 and COMP7 just do a search in NotePad/WordPad for these lines

and info from the cupalloc.txt file the relegation cups are at the bottom of this file Cup 29 and 30


Be very careful with what you're doing here, and make sure to backup your original file before doing anything. Give this a go, if you run into trouble I can assist you.



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Beitrag 17.12.2008 - 16:19
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I'll give that a try later.

Just wondering, but would something like this work?

%INDEX%CUPXX
LEAGUE
Custom Cup2
0
5 <----what does this number refer to, the number of rounds?
; always play one match, with extra time and penalties
{ 2, 5, 8, 0, 24, 28, ROUND_QUARTERFINAL, BEG_1ST_LEG, BEG_WITH_EXTRA_TIME, BEG_WITH_PENALTY }
{ 3, 5, 4, 0, 28, 30, ROUND_SEMIFINAL, BEG_1ST_LEG, BEG_WITH_EXTRA_TIME, BEG_WITH_PENALTY }
{ 4, 5, 2, 0, 30, 31, ROUND_FINAL, BEG_1ST_LEG, BEG_WITH_EXTRA_TIME, BEG_WITH_PENALTY }
2 <----what does this number refer to?
GET_TAB_X_TO_Y, { 0, LEAGUE, 0 }
1
8 <----if there are 16 teams in the league and the script says pull 8, will it pull the top 8 or a random 8?
%INDEXEND%CUPXX

One other slightly related question - is it possible to have a script pull the top team from a second division? I tried out a Concacaf CL script that works great but it pulls a team from Canada even thought that's an empty shell league. I could add some CSL teams but I'd rather redirect the script to pull the top team from USL1 where Montreal, Vancouver and Puerto Rico play. The script for the CCL is here.

Thanks again for everything.
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Beitrag 18.12.2008 - 4:16
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QUOTE (Arsene @ 18.12.2008 - 0:19) *
I'll give that a try later.

Just wondering, but would something like this work?

%INDEX%CUPXX
LEAGUE
Custom Cup2
0
5 <----what does this number refer to, the number of rounds?
; always play one match, with extra time and penalties
{ 2, 5, 8, 0, 24, 28, ROUND_QUARTERFINAL, BEG_1ST_LEG, BEG_WITH_EXTRA_TIME, BEG_WITH_PENALTY }
{ 3, 5, 4, 0, 28, 30, ROUND_SEMIFINAL, BEG_1ST_LEG, BEG_WITH_EXTRA_TIME, BEG_WITH_PENALTY }
{ 4, 5, 2, 0, 30, 31, ROUND_FINAL, BEG_1ST_LEG, BEG_WITH_EXTRA_TIME, BEG_WITH_PENALTY }
2 <----what does this number refer to?
GET_TAB_X_TO_Y, { 0, LEAGUE, 0 }
1
8 <----if there are 16 teams in the league and the script says pull 8, will it pull the top 8 or a random 8?
%INDEXEND%CUPXX

One other slightly related question - is it possible to have a script pull the top team from a second division? I tried out a Concacaf CL script that works great but it pulls a team from Canada even thought that's an empty shell league. I could add some CSL teams but I'd rather redirect the script to pull the top team from USL1 where Montreal, Vancouver and Puerto Rico play. The script for the CCL is here.

Thanks again for everything.


I'm guessing you haven't taken a look at my signature, have you?

anyways, for all the information I have to give on domestic Cup's and relegations look here

::edit:: I forgot to respond to the last part of your message

okay if you are only going to use this for yourself and can gaurantee that you will allways play witht he USL 1 league enabled make this change:

replace this: GET_INTERNATIONAL_TEAMS, 70, 1 ; Canada 19

with this:
GET_TAB_X_TO_Y, { 95, LEAGUE,1 }
1
1


this will get the top team for the USL 1 instead of that crap Oakville team. I don't blame you for not wanting to waste your time with the CSL, it's a farce of the league, that should be called the OSL, considering the only teams in it are from Ontario with a single exception from Quebec.

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Beitrag 18.12.2008 - 13:52
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QUOTE (otherdumbname @ 17.12.2008 - 21:16) *
I'm guessing you haven't taken a look at my signature, have you?

anyways, for all the information I have to give on domestic Cup's and relegations look here

::edit:: I forgot to respond to the last part of your message

okay if you are only going to use this for yourself and can gaurantee that you will allways play witht he USL 1 league enabled make this change:

replace this: GET_INTERNATIONAL_TEAMS, 70, 1 ; Canada 19

with this:
GET_TAB_X_TO_Y, { 95, LEAGUE,1 }
1
1


this will get the top team for the USL 1 instead of that crap Oakville team. I don't blame you for not wanting to waste your time with the CSL, it's a farce of the league, that should be called the OSL, considering the only teams in it are from Ontario with a single exception from Quebec.


Awesome! Thanks so much.

I'm going to have some time off from work over the holidays and I will make sure to read your tutorial.

Thanks again.
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Beitrag 19.12.2008 - 1:43
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QUOTE (otherdumbname @ 17.12.2008 - 21:16) *
::edit:: I forgot to respond to the last part of your message

okay if you are only going to use this for yourself and can gaurantee that you will allways play witht he USL 1 league enabled make this change:

replace this: GET_INTERNATIONAL_TEAMS, 70, 1 ; Canada 19

with this:
GET_TAB_X_TO_Y, { 95, LEAGUE,1 }
1
1


this will get the top team for the USL 1 instead of that crap Oakville team. I don't blame you for not wanting to waste your time with the CSL, it's a farce of the league, that should be called the OSL, considering the only teams in it are from Ontario with a single exception from Quebec.


The change in the script was successful at pulling the top team from USL1 to replace the Canadian team but it also pulled a fifth team from MLS. Is there a way to correct this? Or should I replace the 4 in this line with a 3?

GET_INTERNATIONAL_TEAMS, 95, 4 ; USA 4-7

Might as well give it a try...
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Beitrag 19.12.2008 - 2:29
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QUOTE (Arsene @ 19.12.2008 - 9:43) *
The change in the script was successful at pulling the top team from USL1 to replace the Canadian team but it also pulled a fifth team from MLS. Is there a way to correct this? Or should I replace the 4 in this line with a 3?

GET_INTERNATIONAL_TEAMS, 95, 4 ; USA 4-7

Might as well give it a try...

That's kind of strange, I don't know why you'd end up with an extra MLS team, but then again I've never tried adding teams from lower divisions before. Yeah I'd try reducing the original quota from the MLS and see what that does.



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Beitrag 19.12.2008 - 3:51
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QUOTE (otherdumbname @ 18.12.2008 - 19:29) *
That's kind of strange, I don't know why you'd end up with an extra MLS team, but then again I've never tried adding teams from lower divisions before. Yeah I'd try reducing the original quota from the MLS and see what that does.


I changed the number to 3 and in the first season it worked the way I'd hope and pulled 4 MLS teams and 1 USL. But in the second season the script only pulled 3 MLS teams while still pulling 1 from USL. I changed the script back to 4 MLS teams and each time I simmed it pulled the teams correctly, 4 MLS and 1 USL. The league table indicates that 5 MLS teams are qualifying for the intl cup but other than that it seems to work correctly.
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