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[smbtouch]

Great work m8

Thanks for the info and the windows tip.

How do I go about changing the camera angle, by that I mean not using the standard ones.
Is it possible to zoom out further at all so you can see more of the pitch?

Also I have noticed that when playing fusion mode, the scanner dissapears, this is difficult as you can't see your forward line, any ideas?

First of all, here is tip how to edit files inside config.big archive :

http://board.fm09.de/index.php?s=&show...dpost&p=720

When you are ready to do it, extract "tcmai.ini" file on your desktop, and open it with notepad..find this lines :

// Height of the camera (meters) - above the field
TCM_CAM_HEIGHT = 44.0

// This defines how less movement should the camera-position do compared to the camera-target (along the Z axis)
// Example: if this is 1.0 - the camera is moving simultaneously with the focus target along the Z axis (field length)
// Example: if this is 0.5 and the focus target is on the goal - the camera moves to 50% of the field
TCM_CAM_HORIZONTAL_FOLLOWING = 0.7

// This is the lens angle of the camera view (degrees)
TCM_CAM_LENSE_ANGLE = 16.4

Height line is obviously position of camera from the ground up, TCM_CAM_HORIZONTAL_FOLLOWING line is for angle, whether camera follows by line, or does more tv angle..when value is 1.0, camera goes as default one in original setting along the line, and with reducing to 0.7 as i did in the patch, it will make angle of 30% which you mentioned that you like
Lense of camera is best line to see more of the field, try to put it to 20 to see the effect - best explanation is simply the "zoom level"

Btw, never forget to backup your file before doing changes, if something goes wrong, game will crash..

Best regards!

Der Beitrag wurde von smbtouch bearbeitet: 05.11.2008 - 0:58

[kons45]

SMB!!! Without sounding gay..I wanna say I LOVE you (actually your patch) and u have made this game playable for me. I was trying loads of patches for the 08 game on 09 but nothing was working the passing was awful. I even tried your 8.2 but no go.

My first game was an international match btwn..I cant even remember wat my national team is..Lichtenstein I think and Switzerland. My team was way weaker so I played 5-4-1 and very defensive with counter attacked turned on. The players were awesome passing the ball around and the Swiss team also had some good moves.

The Swiss took the lead with a superb header..something I havent seen in 09. Curled free kick from the right and smashed in just outside the 6yard box low into the corner..my defenders were at fault.

For the second half I played 532 and my team scored the best(est) goal Ive seen on FifaM09! I'll have to upload it when I have the time!Rushing out now but had to tell u how pleased I am.

Switzerland did score a long shot beautifully placed 1min later though and I lost but I didnt care coz my team played how I wanted them too just that the swiss were too strong.

I then played a match with my main team Cambridge United. The first pass my player gave the ball away and I though oh no the patch only works on highly rated teams. The computer then started stringing some lovely passes together and I was very excited. My team went down 1-0, 2-1 and made it 2-2 at HT after they had a man sent of.

I went full offensive in the second half and conceded =(. I did manage to pull it back to 3-3 but couldnt find the winning goal!

You are my hero SMB. The patch is not perfect but u've shown me that the game can be modified to become playable. Defence seemed too open for my lower league game but it was only one match. I would also like the players to challege a bit more for headers.

Some of the MANY good pts are offsides don't happen every second attack by either team(I hated that in the original patch) and the passing is so awesome now!

Can't wait to start playing properly now that the sack bug has been proven to be fake and 3D is fixed!!!

WOOOHOOO!!! Keep it up SMB!

[smbtouch]

Hey, Kons, i'm glad you are enjoying your defeats now

As you said it, there are lots of fine-tunes to do here, but we'll get to those eventually, my main goal for this first version is to establish great base, and major tweaks like built-up play and passing mechanics. I do admit that it's visible that i didn't do much on minor tweaks, but let's prepare the fire first with this version, and pun on some meat on the barbecue later on I'm actually not satisfied with this first patch, but it's better then i thought it would be.

Feel free to post all the negatives here as you will play on, until the final version is released..i still hope i'll be able to close it up in Friday

Keep in touch!

Btw, i expect less goals in final version, as i have made better reactions for goalies, they were letting in too much long shots, so that is already redone..

Der Beitrag wurde von smbtouch bearbeitet: 05.11.2008 - 13:52

[bensix]

The turning feature is annoying to me also, it's either to let them do the turn or pass back to defence, no other option as i can see, so..from two evils i choose smaller one Maybe "they" will do something about it with official update1, as this is hard-coded change in animation

I see,but can you stick the ball more to the players feet while turning?

[Dave87]

Hey, Kons, i'm glad you are enjoying your defeats now

As you said it, there are lots of fine-tunes to do here, but we'll get to those eventually, my main goal for this first version is to establish great base, and major tweaks like built-up play and passing mechanics. I do admit that it's visible that i didn't do much on minor tweaks, but let's prepare the fire first with this version, and pun on some meat on the barbecue later on I'm actually not satisfied with this first patch, but it's better then i thought it would be.

Feel free to post all the negatives here as you will play on, until the final version is released..i still hope i'll be able to close it up in Friday

Keep in touch!

Btw, i expect less goals in final version, as i have made better reactions for goalies, they were letting in too much long shots, so that is already redone..

Hi Smb!

My name is David and i started playing this game two days ago and at first it seemed really cool but as time went on i realized that a bunch of flaws 1. the players often run with the ball so it goes out of the pitch 2. the players makes a bunch of errors in their passes, and im not talking about small teams im talking about times like tottenham and roma etc also 3. My team hardly scores anything..they create "some" chances and when they well do they hardly ever score......referring back to the previous guy is this something that your patch fixes, or will i just have to live with this lousy gameplay?

Thanks for your time!

//Dave

[smbtouch]

I see,but can you stick the ball more to the players feet while turning?

That's exactly what i'm trying to do with new ball movement, to make them look more technical, so far with only minor improvement, i'm trying to make the ball less bounced from leg, but at the same time ball would not bounce of the ground enough, so it has to be balanced more properly.

It's always give&take issue, you know?

[smbtouch]

Hi Smb!

My name is David and i started playing this game two days ago and at first it seemed really cool but as time went on i realized that a bunch of flaws 1. the players often run with the ball so it goes out of the pitch 2. the players makes a bunch of errors in their passes, and im not talking about small teams im talking about times like tottenham and roma etc also 3. My team hardly scores anything..they create "some" chances and when they well do they hardly ever score......referring back to the previous guy is this something that your patch fixes, or will i just have to live with this lousy gameplay?

Thanks for your time!

//Dave

Hello David,

keep an eye on custom gameplay patches from community, and i'm sure you will find the right one for you..we all try to make it look as realistic as possible, like you are watching actual game on tv, but we are limited by engine so it can't be 100% as we would like it to be..but we try

I'm hoping to release gameplay patch for this weekend, friday possibly, and i hope my fellow patchers will activate soon also with their work.

Stay tuned!

[davis1985]

Hello David,

keep an eye on custom gameplay patches from community, and i'm sure you will find the right one for you..we all try to make it look as realistic as possible, like you are watching actual game on tv, but we are limited by engine so it can't be 100% as we would like it to be..but we try

I'm hoping to release gameplay patch for this weekend, friday possibly, and i hope my fellow patchers will activate soon also with their work.

Stay tuned!

Hey SMB, I know it is a little late but may I try out your patch too? The original one for the game is so horrid.

[vivacook]

Hi smb

Played a few games.

U have managed to create the most realistic mirror of a prem football match.

Boring...pass sideways..pass backwards...pass sideways...pass backwards. No shots unless wide by a mile.
No exitement...no skill...just keep the ball...keep the ball....keep the ball...snr snr..snr.

This is football as we watch it. Not sure how you achieved this, but I`m after the opposite.

Direct football...pass quick and strike...defenders get in the way or striker gets a chance...keeper saves or goal!!!

Don`t take this personnel (I`m sure you won`t, you know I owe you you for keeping me after 08 was released) but this hard coded pass backwards and sideways and short, one man back to same man...back to same man ...back to same man...bores the pants out of me.
Why oh why can`t BF learn from our comments.

A lot of work to do my friend. Your the man though.

One thing...loaded direct 9 back on my machine and fixed my graphic problem. Just need a game to play now.

I have loaded our patch from 07 and this isn`t far away exept for the ridiculous back passing when near goal.

We need to get BF to re-set this passing hard code or its another year wasted.

[smbtouch]

Hey SMB, I know it is a little late but may I try out your patch too? The original one for the game is so horrid.

Hello,

i will send you download link to PM now to try, and actual patch should be released for this weekend.

Best regards!

p.s. if you didn't received the link, let me know on PM.

Der Beitrag wurde von smbtouch bearbeitet: 06.11.2008 - 0:36

[smbtouch]

Hi smb

Played a few games.

U have managed to create the most realistic mirror of a prem football match.

Boring...pass sideways..pass backwards...pass sideways...pass backwards. No shots unless wide by a mile.
No exitement...no skill...just keep the ball...keep the ball....keep the ball...snr snr..snr.

This is football as we watch it. Not sure how you achieved this, but I`m after the opposite.

Direct football...pass quick and strike...defenders get in the way or striker gets a chance...keeper saves or goal!!!

Don`t take this personnel (I`m sure you won`t, you know I owe you you for keeping me after 08 was released) but this hard coded pass backwards and sideways and short, one man back to same man...back to same man ...back to same man...bores the pants out of me.
Why oh why can`t BF learn from our comments.

A lot of work to do my friend. Your the man though.

One thing...loaded direct 9 back on my machine and fixed my graphic problem. Just need a game to play now.

I have loaded our patch from 07 and this isn`t far away exept for the ridiculous back passing when near goal.

We need to get BF to re-set this passing hard code or its another year wasted.

Hello,

of course i don't take it personal, i actually like what you said, my course is to make it as realistic as possible all along..we'll see how it will turn out, but i consider this first one just initial version to get myself into touch with this game, and to be able to make quicker patch after first official update comes out..this year will be the same as last year - we will have something real to build on only when game is patched properly, same as it was after update2 last year, and my target is to hit my best one from third shot..

Keep in touch!

[kons45]

As promised here is the superb goal that Lithuania scored =).

Lets hope Update one adds new things to the engine and our superb patchers (SMB) and the rest can make it even more beautiful!

Have a look!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKTLjDKAAgM

Dammit came out really small.

[smbtouch]

As promised here is the superb goal that Lithuania scored =).

Lets hope Update one adds new things to the engine and our superb patchers (SMB) and the rest can make it even more beautiful!

Have a look!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKTLjDKAAgM

Dammit came out really small.

Nice goal..i saw scissors-shot goal from Darren Bent while testing it, it was beautifully animated..

[Coolbananas]

Nice goal..i saw scissors-shot goal from Darren Bent while testing it, it was beautifully animated..

SMB, i know this is a bit of a liberty asking now, but can i try your patch as im getting really annoyed by the game on its own.

Don't worry if its too late, i'll just wait till its out.

[smbtouch]

SMB, i know this is a bit of a liberty asking now, but can i try your patch as im getting really annoyed by the game on its own.

Don't worry if its too late, i'll just wait till its out.

As i can't really promise to deploy patch tommorow with certainty,i will send you test version on PM..it is ment to be base for some future work, final version will have some similarities, but basically everything is redone is different direction already, so you should check out actual patch when it will be done..

Keep in touch!

Der Beitrag wurde von smbtouch bearbeitet: 06.11.2008 - 23:27

[davis1985]

Managed to play a few games this evening and I must say that I am very impressed. The passing is better, much better. I would say the ratio of good to bad passes is just about right. Would like to see players make a few more quick passes and one two's at times because at times they make slow decisions. Good to see that wingers are a bit more involved in the game. The first touch of the players has improved but I still think it is a little heavy, especially when the players need to run backwards to receive the pass. Close control could be slightly better in dribbling (for skill full players) and for when players turn with the ball (it moves away from them too much). I still think there is a little to much backwards passing. It is fine for midfielders who are in their own half but sometimes players in attacking positions pass the ball all the way back to defence. Wing play could be improved a little, with wingers cutting in more and also delivering more crosses instead of passing back or just losing the ball. I think the balance with free kicks, shots and goal keeping is pretty much perfect. Some shots are saved, some miss, some hit the post and some are saved and I like that. Defending in the game is alright from what I have gather so far. Just notice that the defenders are a bit slow in getting back up after a sliding tackle. Referee seems fine and I would say there are the right amount of offsides now.

Over all it is a massive step forward and I'm enjoying 3d matches again so thank you SMB, I look forward to your actual patch over the weekend.

Btw I looked at some 3d match previews before the game came out and does anyone else think the actual 3d match engine that came with the game looks different (i.e no where near as good)?

[kons45]

Hi Davis,

I'm wondering if those previews u saw were on Gamespot? They were one of the websites that linked Fifa09 Videos and labeled them as FifaM09 videos.

If it was definitely FifaM09 videos then Im not sure I saw any preview ones.

[DiceDuP]

Friday at last and i've been waiting all week to see SMB's first release. Good luck and I hope you manage to get it out so that I (and I'm sure many others) can try and enjoy a weekend of FM09. Had the game since release but stopped playing it as the 3D matches are soooo bad (let alone all the other bugs). I will give feedback once I've played it a while. Thx.

[smbtouch]

Friday at last and i've been waiting all week to see SMB's first release. Good luck and I hope you manage to get it out so that I (and I'm sure many others) can try and enjoy a weekend of FM09. Had the game since release but stopped playing it as the 3D matches are soooo bad (let alone all the other bugs). I will give feedback once I've played it a while. Thx.

Hello,

i think i will be able to release it today, i played several matches now without applying any changes and it looks good..but only good, not great, as there are quite a few ideas i had to disband due to some flaws in engine which prevents them, so i can't say i'm 100% satisfied with final outcome, but it's a start at least..for instance, turning and direct approach are both very much broken, i have tried to bypass them, but wheather you will like how i did it or not it's up for you to decide.

I have decided to stop with development after this release until first BF's update comes out, and then i'll have a fresh start to build upon by using experience collected from this one and leaked demo tests.

I hope that i won't dissapoint you all, but please do bear in mind that last year's gameplay was also horrible until engine update came out, so let's all keep fingers crossed that BF will make massive step forward with update1 and that we will not need so much major changes to make it playable and enjoyable at the same time. Who knows, maybe we wont need patch at all?

It's only left for me to watch how shooting mechanics handle, and if it's ok, i'll give it a go with release this evening.

Best regards!

[miwright64]

Hi,

Any chance I can have the link to the config file, the 3d engine for this version is just the same as last years. Do they ever test these before releasing or is it a case of the name of the game will sell it ?

Thanks