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[bensix]

Wanna take a challenge on beta-testing for my first one?

No problem,I'll try it out

[smbtouch]

No problem,I'll try it out

I'll PM you download link once i get home from work..about two hours from now..you just have to confirm how brilliant it is, that's all i'm asking No, honestly, i could do with some tips, as i'm focused on ball movement and i watched so many matches already that i can't noptice all areas as sharp as someone who see it first time

Keep in touch!

[bensix]

ok, I 'll try to give you some feedback......

[rocco200]

Hi
Can you send me patch for fm 09?
i know you are testing but can I test as well?

me email : kosowo2001@yahoo.co.uk

I like you patch V8.2 for fm 08 and I aspect good one from you for fm 09

[smbtouch]

Hi
Can you send me patch for fm 09?
i know you are testing but can I test as well?

me email : kosowo2001@yahoo.co.uk

I like you patch V8.2 for fm 08 and I aspect good one from you for fm 09

Sure, this will be very similar to V8.2..i'll send you the link when i'm home from work..

Best regards!

[kons45]

Sure, this will be very similar to V8.2..i'll send you the link when i'm home from work..

Best regards!

Groan..spent my whole evening playing with various patches from 08 and none of them do it for me. Im very afraid I dont like the engine this year and that no one can fix it.

I dont know wats wrong..my team just dont seem to create the chances..so many crosses and my players hardly win headers and when they do its soooo soft. I wonder if its coz Im playing in the regional leagues.

My team Cambridge C is top of the table though by 1 pt but its just torture watching the 3D..help meeee.

Please SMB PM me the link...I can't take it anymore..lol

[bensix]

Groan..spent my whole evening playing with various patches from 08 and none of them do it for me. Im very afraid I dont like the engine this year and that no one can fix it.

I dont know wats wrong..my team just dont seem to create the chances..so many crosses and my players hardly win headers and when they do its soooo soft. I wonder if its coz Im playing in the regional leagues.

My team Cambridge C is top of the table though by 1 pt but its just torture watching the 3D..help meeee.

Please SMB PM me the link...I can't take it anymore..lol

It's because regional leagues. Headers in premier league are not soft

[smbtouch]

You will all get the download links on your personal messages now Keep it low profile guys, and let's make this game as it should be right from the start

EDIT : i have send it to you all, if anyone didn't get it, please let me know..

Enjoy your games!

p.s. I want your verdicts by tomorrow afternoon at least, to know how to tweak this thing further..thanks guys!

Der Beitrag wurde von smbtouch bearbeitet: 04.11.2008 - 18:22

[Prismv]

Hi m8

Would love to try out your patch, I'm currently playing the game myself with the joypad.

Game certainly needs refining.

I know last year you had a fix so you could play as the whole team not just 1 player, could you remember what this is please too or tell me how to do it?

Also are there any hidden moves in the game other than the standard controls?

Cheers

[bensix]

Played 5 games with your config


My thoughts:

*Players are running to far backwards,more than necessary

*Long shots from strikers while there are better options to score.

*Many turnings with ball (player has the ball and than turns around,mostly with ball moving too far from feet)

*While defending,defenders are moving in front of the attackers instead of behind the attackers (maybe tactical,turning off offside trap???)

*Free kick shots to far away from goal

* Still many backwards passing
* Can you do something about the player talks (not during half time), you need to talk too often with the players.

*build up play is ok

(should I begin a new game for the patch,could it be different of save game)??

[smbtouch]

Hi m8

Would love to try out your patch, I'm currently playing the game myself with the joypad.

Game certainly needs refining.

I know last year you had a fix so you could play as the whole team not just 1 player, could you remember what this is please too or tell me how to do it?

Also are there any hidden moves in the game other than the standard controls?

Cheers

Hello,

i'm sorry to dissapoint you here, but that wasn't me you are talking about

However, i do remember that i helped someone to build such patch with tips, i dunno how it turned out..the whole fusion thing was in enabling controller.

Line that you have to put is in the user.ini file in game's main folder :

ENABLE_CONTROLLER = 1

And then don't pick any player and you should be able to control them all..but this trick worked in 08 version, please let me know if it still apply for this one..

Btw, i'm very strongly against it, i find manager game best to sit back and watch the show, that's what is true meaning of managerial career, not to be able to take possesion of certain player..you have fifa soccer game for that

Only "other" keys i know is control, or alt, or shift for dribbles, i don't remember any more which one is it..

Best regards!

Der Beitrag wurde von smbtouch bearbeitet: 04.11.2008 - 19:55

[Prismv]

Hello,

i'm sorry to dissapoint you here, but that wasn't me you are talking about

However, i do remember that i helped someone to build such patch with tips, i dunno how it turned out..the whole fusion thing was in enabling controller.

Line that you have to put is in the user.ini file in game's main folder :

ENABLE_CONTROLLER = 1

And then don't pick any player and you should be able to control them all..but this trick worked in 08 version, please let me know if it still apply for this one..

Btw, i'm very strongly against it, i find manager game best to sit back and watch the show, that's what is true meaning of managerial career, not to be able to take possesion of certain player..you have fifa soccer game for that

Only "other" keys i know is control, or alt, or shift for dribbles, i don't remember any more which one is it..

Best regards!

thanks m8 I will try this fix.

I agree with the player thing but for some games I like to jump in now and again and play, I normally lose though because I'm lol.

Occasionally I will bring the player off the bench but it is very hard.

I'd be very interested to try the patch you have to see how it works in a playing environment however.

Is there a link to it somewhere?

[vivacook]

Hey smb

Send the beta...I willtst as well

Tried the rendering made a small difference but not enough.

I dont think the graphics work correctly on a AGP X4

Anyone got one?

I will start new post and ask

[Prismv]

Hello,

i'm sorry to dissapoint you here, but that wasn't me you are talking about

However, i do remember that i helped someone to build such patch with tips, i dunno how it turned out..the whole fusion thing was in enabling controller.

Line that you have to put is in the user.ini file in game's main folder :

ENABLE_CONTROLLER = 1

And then don't pick any player and you should be able to control them all..but this trick worked in 08 version, please let me know if it still apply for this one..

Btw, i'm very strongly against it, i find manager game best to sit back and watch the show, that's what is true meaning of managerial career, not to be able to take possesion of certain player..you have fifa soccer game for that

Only "other" keys i know is control, or alt, or shift for dribbles, i don't remember any more which one is it..

Best regards!

Just to let you know your fix worked a treat.
I can control the entire team now if I want too.

There are some major flaws with the cpu Im playing against though, they really dont do enough to score, here's hoping the patch will fix it.

[smbtouch]

Just to let you know your fix worked a treat.
I can control the entire team now if I want too.

There are some major flaws with the cpu Im playing against though, they really dont do enough to score, here's hoping the patch will fix it.

Glad to hear it, maybe we'll make a fusion-only version once also, but now i'm concentrated on manager-only

I was out with my gf, now i'm sending you guys testing link, and do bear in mind it's not the final release..my target is still Friday for final, please hurry with your thoughts..

Best regards!

Der Beitrag wurde von smbtouch bearbeitet: 04.11.2008 - 23:25

[smbtouch]

If i missed anyone for beta test, please do remind me again, i can get senile sometimes

Anyway, tomorrow afternoon i'm deleting link for beta and closiong down testing rounds, and will implement, or try to implement all your thoughts into final release..some can be done, and some can't..

Keep in touch!

[smbtouch]

Played 5 games with your config


My thoughts:

*Players are running to far backwards,more than necessary

*Long shots from strikers while there are better options to score.

*Many turnings with ball (player has the ball and than turns around,mostly with ball moving too far from feet)

*While defending,defenders are moving in front of the attackers instead of behind the attackers (maybe tactical,turning off offside trap???)

*Free kick shots to far away from goal

* Still many backwards passing
* Can you do something about the player talks (not during half time), you need to talk too often with the players.

*build up play is ok

(should I begin a new game for the patch,could it be different of save game)??

Hello,

those are fast&fair thoughts, and they are head-to-head with my own notices..thanks for the feedback!

For passing notices - I have changed back-passes a bit, at least got rid of long ball back passes, which automatically provides us with more attacking play..i don't want to ruin balance in built-up by forcing forward play, so i don't think that will be in final release, but i can give you tips exactly what lines and values to change on your own to get to your own desired effect..i have made players go little more forward on their own, but i don't think it will be on your wanted level..what is most important is that it can be done easily afterwards just for you

For long shots, i will try to alter shooting bias to see the effect, i think you are right, players do sometimes shoot one-timers with no need

The turning feature is annoying to me also, it's either to let them do the turn or pass back to defence, no other option as i can see, so..from two evils i choose smaller one Maybe "they" will do something about it with official update1, as this is hard-coded change in animation

For defenders, do some tactical choices, unfortunately we don't have 5X5 any more to tweak movement, so you should use more defensive options like defensive stance, never forward runs, and don't use "all over" for closing down, let them defend half or third

Free kicks - you know the story, we still have to change shooting lines to make them better, but then all shooting in the game would be a mess..once again, from two evils, i choose one which does less mess
But i did saw couple of solid hard shots from them, you should look for player with long shot skill and shot power not more them 70, and free kicks skill no more then 75, then he would do more finesse shots

About player talk - i have reduced morale changes, but you will have to restart the game to take the effect..but that note will always be there to remind you to check your players..i will give boost in morale to any player which played last match, so all you need to do to keep your squad happy is to give everyone chance once in a while

Keep in touch!

Der Beitrag wurde von smbtouch bearbeitet: 05.11.2008 - 0:19

[Prismv]

Well just played first game using the beta patch and I must say it was great.

I noticed better passing and an all round improvement, great work.

Some things I have noticed however.

The defending back line, this is a problem it seems my defenders like to go "walkabout" and they are caught out too high up the pitch, maybe I need to change their defensive settings but all to often I am faced with 3-4 attackers and no defender to be found lol.

I'm noticeing a lot of bad tackles go unpunished and worse when faced with a 1 on 1 my player is brought down, the opposition defender will not even get a yellow card?!!! Yet if my player does a tackle in the midfield it's a straight red?

I know this isn't a patch issue as it was done with the standard game, but is there a way to fix this?

Also it looks like you have changed the camera angle in the patch, it was slightly at a rotation, I do like it better like this, how did you change it?

On a sad note I have to say my game is crashing now, this isn't anything to do with the patch but im on vista 64bit and its the 2nd time it has happened, it only seems to crash during the game.

Is there a way to play this windowed at all?

Great work keep it up tho m8

[smbtouch]

Well just played first game using the beta patch and I must say it was great.

I noticed better passing and an all round improvement, great work.

Some things I have noticed however.

The defending back line, this is a problem it seems my defenders like to go "walkabout" and they are caught out too high up the pitch, maybe I need to change their defensive settings but all to often I am faced with 3-4 attackers and no defender to be found lol.

I'm noticeing a lot of bad tackles go unpunished and worse when faced with a 1 on 1 my player is brought down, the opposition defender will not even get a yellow card?!!! Yet if my player does a tackle in the midfield it's a straight red?

I know this isn't a patch issue as it was done with the standard game, but is there a way to fix this?

Also it looks like you have changed the camera angle in the patch, it was slightly at a rotation, I do like it better like this, how did you change it?

On a sad note I have to say my game is crashing now, this isn't anything to do with the patch but im on vista 64bit and its the 2nd time it has happened, it only seems to crash during the game.

Is there a way to play this windowed at all?

Great work keep it up tho m8

I know the tackling and referee setting, and i admit i haven't focused on it that much, but i will reduce straight red-card meter, and lower down referee agitation..i can't promise that it will be perfect for the first release, but i can say that those issues will be lot better in second and third patch when all build-up work is done..

As for defenders, you will have to work on the tactics, it has nothing to do with patch..unfortunately, bf decided to cancel 5X5 movement option in tactical menu where we could tweak movement, so you should look to make them positioned more deeply, and closing down to defending third or own half..also, be sure to make them not doing forward runs. You sould also mark fast opposite strikers with DM if you can spare one in your formation

I can't say much about your crashing issue, i don't have vista, i'm using XP and game didn't crashed on me yet. Try to play with 3D settings, lower down details or anti-aliasing meter, maybe with reduced settings game would run more smoothly and avoid crash.

To play windowed mode, check my last post on the Tips&Tricks topic

Camera angle can be changed in tcmai.ini file inside config.big archive, i'm using only angle changes and zoom levels, it will be slightly more zoomed in final release then in your testing version, but this camera is closest to tv camera i could get..

Keep in touch!

Der Beitrag wurde von smbtouch bearbeitet: 05.11.2008 - 0:44

[Prismv]

Great work m8

Thanks for the info and the windows tip.

How do I go about changing the camera angle, by that I mean not using the standard ones.
Is it possible to zoom out further at all so you can see more of the pitch?

Also I have noticed that when playing fusion mode, the scanner dissapears, this is difficult as you can't see your forward line, any ideas?