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Beitrag 02.11.2008 - 17:47
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Hello all,

i have decided to keep it all this year in the same topic, as some sort of development blog, so this is the place where you can find all related to my patches - all releases with links, usage of patches, your wishes, thoughts, and tips on how to alter the setting to your own preferences.

I will try to hit my ultimate version sooner this year, possibly withing three major releases, and to do that, i need your eyes and words wink.gif

So please, don't ever hesitate to post your comments, feedbacks, and thoughs on any version of my patches released here.

Looking forward to hear from you!

Enjoy your games!

Keep in touch!
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Beitrag 02.11.2008 - 17:53
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Ok, my first post goes to leaked demo vs. full game notices..

As i can see, there is no difference whatsoever between those two, and as i did put up high effort on the demo gameplay, now i have prepared base for actual patch, which i'm currently testing in full game.

I believe the first patch could be released for next weekend, but it all depends on the outcome of testings. As for now, i can confirm that overall experience should be very close to my last releases for previous game.

Will keep you informed, in the meantime, please feel free to post your wishes on how this game should look, to know which course to take in development.

Keep in touch!
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Beitrag 02.11.2008 - 18:18
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Ola. With you on the workbench and other 3D 'modders' joining in soon, it won't take very long to unscramble the 3D wink.gif

Good luck.





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Beitrag 03.11.2008 - 10:13
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Hello all,

development is doing very well imho, here is some info what to expect..

List of updates due to original gameplay :

- players use their default skill values, instead of falling into tiers
- greater difference in speed between regular player, and those with great pace
- ground-passing style built-up play
- more long shot attempts
- more goals from long shots, keeper reactions are tweaked along
- more dribble attempts from skilled players
- direct approach to goal from strikers, they will be hungry for goals, and bit selfish as they should be
- passing picking remade, skilled players will do forward passes more, less skilled will play safer ones
- less bumping into defenders, player will either challenge them with dribble, run through, or turn around and pass back for one-two
- clearances will be turned on always when there is danger, no risky possesion play in front of your own goal
- less energy reduction
- less form impact on performance (better impact of tactics)
- less fatigue impact (better impact of tactics)
- no sudden drops or rises for teams during games, more consistency in players

I have just completed new ball movement, and now it's all down to testing overall "touch" of the game, and score lines, that's why i have to test it to longer period. I still feel this first patch will be ready for release for next weekend, and then i'll wait for official update ( which will have changes in 3D ) to make new version.

Keep in touch!

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Beitrag 03.11.2008 - 12:09
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QUOTE (smbtouch @ 03.11.2008 - 10:13) *
Hello all,

development is doing very well imho, here is some info what to expect..

List of updates due to original gameplay :

- players use their default skill values, instead of falling into tiers
- greater difference in speed between regular player, and those with great pace
- ground-passing style built-up play
- more long shot attempts
- more goals from long shots, keeper reactions are tweaked along
- more dribble attempts from skilled players
- direct approach to goal from strikers, they will be hungry for goals, and bit selfish as they should be
- passing picking remade, skilled players will do forward passes more, less skilled will play safer ones
- less bumping into defenders, player will either challenge them with dribble, run through, or turn around and pass back for one-two
- clearances will be turned on always when there is danger, no risky possesion play in front of your own goal
- less energy reduction
- less form impact on performance (better impact of tactics)
- less fatigue impact (better impact of tactics)
- no sudden drops or rises for teams during games, more consistency in players

I have just completed new ball movement, and now it's all down to testing overall "touch" of the game, and score lines, that's why i have to test it to longer period. I still feel this first patch will be ready for release for next weekend, and then i'll wait for official update ( which will have changes in 3D ) to make new version.

Keep in touch!


Hello , rolleyes.gif

Go to be used this line now or not : PLAYER_ATTR_CPU_EFFECT_ON = 0 ? dry.gif




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Beitrag 03.11.2008 - 12:35
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QUOTE (TheFrenchGone @ 03.11.2008 - 12:09) *
Hello , rolleyes.gif

Go to be used this line now or not : PLAYER_ATTR_CPU_EFFECT_ON = 0 ? dry.gif


Patcher's preference, friend..you know my thoughts on the subject, let's just leave the beast in the cave for a while rolleyes.gif
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Beitrag 03.11.2008 - 12:45
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QUOTE (smbtouch @ 03.11.2008 - 12:35) *
Patcher's preference, friend..you know my thoughts on the subject, let's just leave the beast in the cave for a while rolleyes.gif


rolleyes.gif

"no problemo" I'll wait patiently for the release of your patch !! From my part I prefer "0"! May be just a question of personal touch !! rolleyes.gif




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Beitrag 03.11.2008 - 12:57
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QUOTE (TheFrenchGone @ 03.11.2008 - 12:45) *
rolleyes.gif

"no problemo" I'll wait patiently for the release of your patch !! From my part I prefer "0"! May be just a question of personal touch !! rolleyes.gif


It will be released for this weekend, i'll try to play it as much as possible to release it on Friday, but not promising anything, there are few issues to work on yet..

Current list "to change" is check for header passing, long passes, and goalie reactions, all the small finesses, so i think it will be ready..i don't want to build up too much hype about it, but it looks very good, it's a great base for next version before first official update comes out. Then we'll have to redo some changes becouse there ill be some new hard-coded changes afterwards, so new patch will be needed..my goal is to hit the ultimate one with version three - first one will be initial, second will be adaptation to update1, and third should be final rolleyes.gif

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Beitrag 03.11.2008 - 13:07
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Haha we know how that went when u decided to stop patching in 08 =). Loved your patches though and 09 definetly needs a 3D patch and a further camera.

Am tempted to ask u to send me a beta but am afraid I'd like it too much and when update 1 comes out it'll be worse than ur patch. Ah Im still gonna download it when its out anyways!

Ok don't wanna rush u coz I appreciate all the modders on this forum...but hurry it up and lets try get it out before Friday (Now I sound like EA talking to BF).

Lol..thanks SMB!
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Beitrag 03.11.2008 - 13:39
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QUOTE (kons45 @ 03.11.2008 - 13:07) *
Haha we know how that went when u decided to stop patching in 08 =). Loved your patches though and 09 definetly needs a 3D patch and a further camera.

Am tempted to ask u to send me a beta but am afraid I'd like it too much and when update 1 comes out it'll be worse than ur patch. Ah Im still gonna download it when its out anyways!

Ok don't wanna rush u coz I appreciate all the modders on this forum...but hurry it up and lets try get it out before Friday (Now I sound like EA talking to BF).

Lol..thanks SMB!


I can send you beta, but with just few days of polishing the real thing it would only be a spoiler for you, you know? Decide for yourself, as i said, this first one is initial one, second version will be for update1, and third will be my last, no matter how long it will take me to do it wink.gif

Keep in touch!

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Beitrag 03.11.2008 - 16:11
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Beitrag 03.11.2008 - 16:43
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Whoever has that strong desire to play beta, PM me and you will receive link for download in a while, but i do advise you to hold on until friday and play the actual release. I want to fix some bugs before giving it to people, something BF should have done also wink.gif
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Beitrag 03.11.2008 - 20:22
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Can you send me beta path??

thank you

My email is: iperema@hotmail.com

PD: Can you make something about substitutions cpu????

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Beitrag 03.11.2008 - 23:21
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QUOTE (kosecki99 @ 03.11.2008 - 20:22) *
Can you send me beta path??

thank you

My email is: iperema@hotmail.com

PD: Can you make something about substitutions cpu????


I will send you download link now, thanks guys for helping in development..

Subs? I will look into it if i can, what is wrong with them?
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Beitrag 03.11.2008 - 23:39
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QUOTE (smbtouch @ 03.11.2008 - 16:21) *
Subs? I will look into it if i can, what is wrong with them?


I'm going to assume he's talking about how the CPU won't make any subs in 3D mode. I know it's a problem in friendly matches.



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Beitrag 03.11.2008 - 23:49
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QUOTE (low @ 03.11.2008 - 23:39) *
I'm going to assume he's talking about how the CPU won't make any subs in 3D mode. I know it's a problem in friendly matches.


But it makes subs against me, and switches to different formation when they are loosing, so i don't have such problems..i never play friendly matches in 3D, only league games, friendly is best to simulate unless you are playing against your own reserves or youth team to see how they are doing

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Beitrag 04.11.2008 - 5:34
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Hi SMB I will request you send me the most updated Beta on thursday as I am on leave from work on Friday and would be able to test it out then.

Really can't stand the ball being passed to no one and the way the players cant control the ball.

BTW I'm playing Regional South Conference so I'll be able to test it in the lower leagues and give you feedback. I do expect the players to be slow and make bad decisions but right now the game is just frustrating to watch..I played 08 with really weak teams and loved watching even when tho my players were of low leves.

Thanks SMB I'll PM you my e-mail on Thursday =)

Hope its not too much trouble
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Beitrag 04.11.2008 - 7:34
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QUOTE (kons45 @ 04.11.2008 - 5:34) *
Hi SMB I will request you send me the most updated Beta on thursday as I am on leave from work on Friday and would be able to test it out then.

Really can't stand the ball being passed to no one and the way the players cant control the ball.

BTW I'm playing Regional South Conference so I'll be able to test it in the lower leagues and give you feedback. I do expect the players to be slow and make bad decisions but right now the game is just frustrating to watch..I played 08 with really weak teams and loved watching even when tho my players were of low leves.

Thanks SMB I'll PM you my e-mail on Thursday =)

Hope its not too much trouble


No problem at all, i hope that patch will be completed by then and released in friday, it's been a few games now without making any changes, that's a good sign.. rolleyes.gif

Keep in touch!
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Beitrag 04.11.2008 - 15:11
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last year I used your v7 patch.

For this year I played almost a season.

- The goalies are screaming for tuning (I Can see in news centre,when they ask me laugh.gif )
- too much back passing
- bad passing
- headers and crossing are almost fine,I think
- Touch ( When receiving the ball,the ball jumps of the foot and not with AI)
Long shots needs a little fine tuning
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Beitrag 04.11.2008 - 15:21
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QUOTE (bensix @ 04.11.2008 - 15:11) *
last year I used your v7 patch.

For this year I played almost a season.

- The goalies are screaming for tuning (I Can see in news centre,when they ask me laugh.gif )
- too much back passing
- bad passing
- headers and crossing are almost fine,I think
- Touch ( When receiving the ball,the ball jumps of the foot and not with AI)
Long shots needs a little fine tuning


Wanna take a challenge on beta-testing for my first one? rolleyes.gif
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