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tazarbil
Beitrag 23.01.2010 - 14:48
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Ok its 2010 and im still playing fifa manager 07. I wouldnt complain normally since i manually update the transfers in my database to kee most of the known teams,players ages,stats up to date, but after 4 years almost i cant deny FM 09 ,10 have better graficks, have better media coverage,off the pitch,more illustrated etc etc. My question is this: There are many players that also believe like me that the best and more realistic 3d match simulation, in all terms,tactical,coaching,realistic match,gameplay is the one that Fifa Mnager 07 has still. So, is there any patch around for Fifa Manager 10 that makes the gameplay in 3d match same/similar to FM 07?
What does this mean?

1.Players will not use this stupid and anti-realistic back pass( in real football when a player is pressed u almost never see him to turn his body 180 degrees and off balance try a pass str8 to his back)

2.Loads of attacking runs from every player in the team ( in FM 07 u could see CM,AM,LWB,even DM players when they saw space to perform forward runs in the back of the opponent's defence and their co-mates to actuallly try to pass them the ball with direct passes)

3.Players stats that actually work in the 3d match( for some reason in FM 10 i have players with loads of Flair and whn they get pressed i noticed that they always choose to passthe ball instead of trying to dribble the opponent making the gameplay and the build up play predictable for both sides)

4.Really threatening Long shots outside the area like Real Football ( In FM 07 you couldnt afford to have opponents players shooting freely outside the area cause there was a big danger LIKE real football to concede a goal). Also thnks to ea programming wiz team for some stupid reason almost every shot ends to the target usually to the goalkeeper. In Fm 07 every shot could go anywhere. Crossbar ,keeper,5-6 meters up the post ,3-4 meters out of the left corssbar, upper sid of net 1 meter left of the keeeper with the keeper unable to catch it cause it was a real storng shot etc etc making it more realistic liek real football.

5.Players during the build up play to keep the ball Longer instead of watching always the same stupid ping pong passing game making all players like clones making their stats useless ( in FM every player according to their stats they reacted completely different in every situation ,makign a fact that every player had like in Real football a character , i remmber for example that Grant Leadbiiter used to hold alot the ball on his feet ,and carrying it always with his feet for many metters before he would perform a pass, Konstantin Kravchenko,was a brilliant playmaker with many dribbes on his play,brilliant direct passes and clever thoughts of instant threatening shots ,when he got the chances, and loads of of other examples i could mention).

6.Players stats actually matter when u watch the 3d match concetration,forward runs,intimidation,desicions judgement,etc etc watch examples i gave above in number 5.
7.In FM 07 the whole game u watched had a wild beauty,it was quite aggresive and threatening and attacking in spirit similar to the english style you rarely were watching boring matches,unless i was playing with Brentford 2nd division vs Arsenal or Man U. in cup matches where i was tryign to focus on fortyfing my defence,destroy Arsenal 's game and try to steal the match in counterattacks or the few free kicks,corners,also passsive passing style to delay the match to send it to extra time +penalties if i could etc etc.

8. During a game in Fm 07 even the slightest change you would make,an individual order,or a small change on a single player in formation,or just a change of passing style, had an impact to the match course,good or bad for the team giving a real unique coaching expirience to the player.

9. After watching more than 5000 3d match games in Fm 07 i can certify that almost every goal (more than 10.000 goals)i watched had something diferent from the other goals LIKE in Real football. Nothing to compare with Fm 8,9 and 10.

10.The training in Fm 07 was very easy and fast to use,was working great,and it had a huge impact on the team's performance on the pitch,especially when it focused along with the formations and tactics and your team if u did good job on training and formations and tactics it was a joy to watch on the pitch.

So if you pls know any patch that makes FM 10 gameplay looks abit , at least abit to Fm 07 greateness in 3d match gameplay pls tell me so i can download it and try it. If not i ll stick to Fm 07 for another year =[

P.S. With all the reasons i mentioned above, if there is not any decent gameplay patch why ppl are still trying Fm 08,09,10? I mean good graficks, good press coverage /interviews,more glamour style is good but the real game is in the pitch. Thats all about it folks. Otherwise we would all play football and championship manager. I always loved to watch the games as coach , my 1st touch was with Player-manager in amiga 500, 4-5 firends of me had also Kick off 2 back to europe and i remmeber we saved our team progreess ina 3.5 diskette and loading them in Ko2 europe and organising championships each off us coachign our team ,was quite a fun i recall tongue.gif , ater on Pm 97,98 and then 9 years later thnk god Fm 07 came.
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chrisobi
Beitrag 23.01.2010 - 18:38
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No!
There is no patch. The most of them are not bad, but all in all fm 07 has the best gameplay.
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Beitrag 24.01.2010 - 1:37
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QUOTE (chrisobi @ 23.01.2010 - 17:38) *
No!
There is no patch. The most of them are not bad, but all in all fm 07 has the best gameplay.


That is quite sad =[ . I ll share some of mu thoguhts after testing today for many hours in 3d match mode in fm 08,09Latifolia's ,smb touch French gone and fulkruk patches which from what ive read are the more hopefull patches u can get. All of them change the the game here and there and gg with that.After carefull observation of all the games i played with all these patches , i conluded that these are The main 2 probllems that are making games look anti-realistic and (sadly) worst than fm 07.

1. I made a full attacking version of a 442 formation where i had 1 DM 2 AM AND 1 LM .the right sided AM,the central AM and the LM i had THEM ALL 3 specifically run on the movement section AS EXTRA attackers in ALL fields from mid to the opponent area. Also in teh tactics section i had all the team INCLUDING the 2 wingbacks, run forward OFTEN ,pressing ALL OVER and attacking positions VERY OFFENSIVE. The result on the pitch was exactly the opposite: WHn i was attacking with the ball in my team posseion ALL the blasted time my team was trying to score only with my 2 attackers for some reason all my midfielders were waiting behind the ball like i told them to be cautious in case the ball gets lost so they can defend, and they NEVER STEPPED FOOT on the opponents area. Keep in mind i made one of the most attacking forms of 4-4-2 that can be done.
So problem Number 1 is that there are NO FORWARD RUNS from the midfieldersand wing backs to become extra attackers.
2.the 2nd Problem i noticed is the ridiculous and anti-realistic backpassing from the players.

Conclusion: All the good fellas that can make configs all they have to change if it is not hard coded by the genius devs of ea, arethese 2 things. Nothing else. More forward runs from all players,and to disable completely backpassing.
Sincere regaurds Bill Spiris

P.S. Anyone knows if there is an e-mail adress of the Fifa Manager proggraming team to express them analitically my opinion,so just in hope they read it and understand what they did right in fm 07 and wrong in fm 08-10?

Many thnks in advance
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Beitrag 24.01.2010 - 23:20
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I am sorry but i really think they don´t care. Because so many people have written about this problems and all they do is make more things hardcoded. Sad but true. For fm 09 try the patches from http://fifamanagertattiche.blogspot.com/
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Beitrag 25.01.2010 - 13:35
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QUOTE (chrisobi @ 24.01.2010 - 22:20) *
I am sorry but i really think they don´t care. Because so many people have written about this problems and all they do is make more things hardcoded. Sad but true. For fm 09 try the patches from http://fifamanagertattiche.blogspot.com/


Thanks mate i ll try em.
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Beitrag 26.01.2010 - 16:22
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There is one I found on another forum, will try it now. biggrin.gif
3d Patch
..at the bottom on the site smile.gif

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Beitrag 27.01.2010 - 11:09
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Sorry mate....nothing will turn 10 into 07 or 08.

I play 08 (because I cant find 07 extra anywhere) and have it nearly how I like it.

I am only talking of the 3d match, the rest (graphics, widgets, transfers and budgets) are brilliant.

The Manager 10 version 3d has now become annimated to = FIFA 10.

It looks like an arcade game.

I feel they will role them both together next year.

One question...have u ever tried to change a newer database to fit the 07 version. If so...how?

Ps I also used to play the Anco game. It was brilliant compared to this new version.



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Beitrag 14.02.2010 - 14:05
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I must say that I agree that the 3D match engines ****** for both Fifa Manager 09 and 10. Originally I chose Fifa Manager because of the enjoyable match displayed but now I'm worried that they havent got the head in the game anymore. Dont get me wrong its nice that the improve on the off-pitch areas but it should never be at the expense of the 3D match engine. I mean the people that dont care about the 3D display and only want a hardcore manager game will chose Football Manager anyway right?

I speculate that the developers think that is a wise thing to implement the new engines from the Fifa games but is it a given that those engine actually create a better 3D match engine for Fifa Manager? I think not! I would rather see the developers of Fifa Manager improve on the match engines of Fifa Manager 07 or 08.
Maybe its gonna cost them a little extra resources but that should guarantee that they keep or even improve their market share. If they continue on the current path I think Football Manager will have an easy time creating a match engine that can compete with Fifa Manager and then the manager fans will not buy it anymore.
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Beitrag 14.02.2010 - 20:21
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I think you are correct. Reading the posts, the forum is dying on its feet because all the regular patch makers are giving up because it cant be made better, therefore nothing to talk about.

One question for u Julio,

Do you ever play FIFA 08/09 etc?

I am trying to find out if there are real 3d stadiums in this game, so I can convert them into Fifa Manager.
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Beitrag 15.02.2010 - 12:12
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Try this site for stadiums.
http://www.fm-stadien.de/
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